Should Aetas (Black & Brown Skinned People From The Philippines) Be Referred To As African? Part II - Comments

This is the same thing done to so called "Blacks" in America saying we are all from Africa.  I think this is a slick way to remove the land rights from native, indigenous peoples - to say they are from somewhere else! ** Reply 5. Philemon Maiennaka Nangu @Peter Connell  70-20000 years is quite a very long time, the Appropriate word to use is to refer to us an natives inhabitants of that particular place or region, not to bring a completely different region and people whose cultures and environment is completely different, the creator of the original video is a confused individual who is trying his best to trace his roots but i guess he came to the wrong place, because not all Dark skinned people  are Africans. I still believe it is wrong to call Aetas sn african tribe, trust me if he did the video in PNG or Fiji, he will be told off straight on his mistakes."

** Reply 6. C Jackson "@Peter Connell  I'm sure no harm was intended but the language could be use as a political tool to separate the people from the land.  Logically, if all peopleoriginally came from Africa, then all people are "Africans" but whydo Mongoloid Asians or Caucasoid Europeans not identify as African? Answer: Because they stake claim to aboriginal/indigenous rights to those lands and all resources and riches they hold (but we, AND THEY, know who were the first people there)!  You cannot be an "African" then claim aboriginal/indigenous rights to lands that are not in Africa, does that make sense? Commonly, the major problem is with context of terms such as "African", "Black", etc.  "Melanated","Eumelanated" or even "Negroid"  would be a more accurate description thatshows a close familial relationship these populations share. We are still family!" ** 7. Rosezanne Marcus "I am originally from the Philippines  and grew up in the Philippines until my family moved to the U.S. The U.S. despite being a melting pot still has a lot of racial issues and tensions. I think the black American is just trying to identify with the "blackness" of the Aetas. However, I do agree with you that it is important to come from a place of truth and accuracy. The truth is the Aetas are natives of the Philippines. Just like the Native Americans of North America. It is okay to celebrate people that look like you but it is important to celebrate it in the right context." ** 8. G c"Where did they come from? Did they magically appear there?..

Stop the hate bro! You’re ancestors are from Africa. Point blank. You sound so lost mentioning names and places that were created as part of the divide which has shaped your hateful mind... by the way, hello my brother, I love you! I’m from the Caribbean, but my people came from Africa.."

** Reply 9. Philemon Maiennaka Nangu "Gc we are not Africans, have some respect, im not lost. I am proud to belong to an independent nation and from a different part of the world and a different group of people. Thats the bottom line. There is no hate,

Africans or African Americans have and must accept that we are different, our language  and cultures and even DNA is unique to our own area. 70 000 years ago is a long time, who knows, science  might be misleading us all along.

There is no hate and i am not lost, you are the lost one dude.

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2020 10. Faanēngaaw
"Britney L most of them who now realized there are colored people who also happened to have curly to afro hairs from around the world, claim we came from Africa as if we came directly from Africa.

As a Pacific islander we have been here in these islands for thousands of years before europeans knew the world was even round. So i have no idea how would we even think we came directly from Africa when we came from mainland Asia."

** 11. northtosouthph"Yeah!...I agree our AETAS are Melanesian...They migrated to

the Philippines Many Thousands years ago..." ** Reply 12. Aya I "Yes they migrated from Africa like every other modern human.

Africans are the only race of people that the world falsely tries to divide and reclassify. The guy doing this video is lost and doesnt realize his true origins." ** 13. Ayana Gray "Everyone migrated from Africa at one point or another, so what he was saying was not a lie. But I think he lacked a time frame of what he was talking about to help explain the migration that happened thousands of years ago for the Melanesian people.

Tell me something, what is so bad about being from Africa?

My ancestors were brought to America in the 1600's, this I know for a fact. I have records to prove my claims, but I don't deny my African roots because you can clearly see that I am of African descent. For me to see other brown people in the world who look like me, I take pride in that. We all struggle within the societies that we live in and we all have a connection because of our skin and physical features so I tend to embrace everyone who shares that similarity. Sure we have different cultures and such but no matter where we are on this planet we are one people with one struggle. Much love and respect everyone!" ** Reply 14. Paths2Business, 2022 "Thank you for this, so many people refuse to accept the fact that they are genetically Black because of colonialism and the plight of Black people as a whole. They love our music, talents and all the amazing qualities that come with being Black as well as the benefits that our struggle has brought to them but don't actually care to or want to love us, it's maddening." ** Reply 15. NellyRose, 2022 "Nobody said anything is wrong with being African. Melanesians and Indigenous Australiansmigrated from Africa between 50,000 and 100,000 years ego. As such, their DNAhas evolved/differentiated over that time, and despite their phenotype, they are genetically distinct from modern Sub-Saharan Africans. Modern Sub-Saharan Africans are genetically closer to Caucasians." ** 16. AbM " @Philemon Maiennaka Nangu  thank you very much for the explanation, I have always wondered.

Honestly speaking, when I first learned about Melanesian people (especially in PNG, Fiji, etc.), I was so excited and viewed you as our long lost cousins (since I also have dark skin and live in Africa). The young man (probably African American) who made the initial video about the Aeta people from Philippines, did not mean any harm by saying they (Aeta people) originate from Africa. We might find that he is happy to visit PNG  or other islands and learn more about the people.

I guess, it is how we (Africans and those who were taken as slaves to the Americas, Europe and Asia) view others who seem to look like us (we are excited to meet, speak and find similarities between us - since we have been devided and ruled for centuries). Rather than searching for differences (not that they are not there), we look for similarities between us (Africans, Malenesian peoples or anyone we meet who is welcoming).

I'm saddened by what is happening (watched a documentary) in West Papua and how you (as Malenesian people) are treated (I guess this is another example where we find and feel empathy and want to view Malenesians as from Africa - no disrespect meant).

Interesting fact, your last name "Nangu" may be translated to "Here is" or "that is him" in Zulu (i.e. "nangu uPhilemon" - "Here is Philemon").

I want to learn more about Malenesian people or the Pacific island people.I would be very happy if you can assist or point me to where I can learn more.

Thank you (again for responding to my question).

Regards

Richard"

That's why this race thing shouldn't be a thing because not everyone is pure and someone is bound to have a bit of dna from tgeir ancestors. In all honesty mainland western chinese have more african dna than the modern day aeta." ** 26. ASoul Ja 4Sho "Interesting...

How old are the oldest artifacts or proofs of Melanesian civilization? Most of these civilizations seem relatively young and most do speculate that the inhabitants migrated from somewhere else (Africa). People didn’t just pop up out of nowhere especially with short histories. If these civilizations had some type of proof that are as old as artifacts in Africa and the proof that Africans spread through out I could almost believe this. Enlighten me if you will."

Why was he being so specific to assign these people onto his assumptions when in fact, these Melanasians were the very first peoples to have even settled in these South East Asian islands before the Austronesians that followed after. So technically, that even makes them more Asiatic than many others now strongly associated with the continental labels."

32. YungHandz706 "I see alot of ignorant misinformation in these comments and ignorant troll comments as usual about Black Americans. Most of us Black Americans don't call ourselves Africans and would prefer not to be called that bs "African American" name either. We are of mostly West/CentralAfrican descent as far as DNA while also mixed with West European and alot ofalso alot have a little Native American in us, but our more recent ancestors have been in America for over 400 years. The Black identity was popularized by multiple Black Americans to describe people with mostly African ancestors without calling ourselves Africans. We're our own thing now. The guy who made that video is one of the minority "pan africans" we have, which means he believes every Black person or dark skin person is an African and wants to use that as a way to push unity between each other. Most Black Americans don't know much about Melanesian or African people, but I respect y'all wanting to have your own identity same as people should with Black Americans.

All of that being said I don't think it's a coincidence that y'all have similar features to Africans and New Guinea is country in Africa, so maybe there's a connection to papua new guinea.Another thing to add on to what I said is if he Aeta people didn't believe they were Africans or Black people, then why didn't they mention that to him? I seen a Aeta girl even react to the video on youtube and she never disagreed with them."

** Reply 33. YungHandz706 "@Ralph Montes  I seen you responding to some other comments and you seem like you believe that we're aboriginal,native american or that black hebrew,etc bs. White Americans came to America from the UK, then kicked the native americans to the side and went to mainly West Africans countries like Ghana,Nigeria,etc to buy slaves to help them develop America's resources and economy with products from slave labour. Places like Ghana had the ashanti kingdom and they were known to sale slaves and the slave dungeon castle still exists to this day as a tourist destination with a sign in front of it saying how they hope the people affected from America will return again and there's even a video of a West African chief apologizing to Black Americans for part of our ancestors being sold We look similar to West Africans because that's where most of our DNA comes from(typically from 40-60%) and this can be verified by the multiple Black American ancestry tests on youtube or one you can take yourself. Papua New Guinea and the Papua in Indonesia isn't the same. I'm not looking to argue with you like you seem to want to do..all Imma say is you should study more Black American history because the conspiracy theories some Black American believe because they don't know they own history nor actually put in the serious effort to study it let alone African history or other histories in this world is sad.

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Reply 34. being meshach "AFRICANS AND MELANESIANS IS NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE WE ARE ALL NATIVE PEOPLE AND HAVE VERY SIMILARITIES IN OUR PHYSICAL APPEARANCE AND OUR CULTURE. I KNOW YOU ARE FROM THE ISLANDS AND ARE NATIVE TO THOSE LANDS BUT WE ARE ALL THE SAME PEOPLE. (AFRICANS)

** Reply 35. easy money97 "No 🤣 that's like saying filipinos and cambodians are the same as native american and native canadians coz they look similar" ** 36. isreal wiltshire "Can you clarify to me on how they got their then please??" ** Reply 37. Philemon Maiennaka Nangu "Migration issue is way to old, people have change over so many thousand s of years, you cannot continue to use that as an excuse to call us Melanesian or dark skinned individuals Africans. We are not Africans." ** 38. Flowers4848 "@Evan O  Think you're missing the point … their skin

tone don't make them Africans, they have totally different haplogroups." ** 39. mike askme "@Philemon Maiennaka Nangu  so Mr Nangu, my great great grandparents are descendants from West Africa, Central Africa and my DNA shows the oldest line comes North East Africa, but i was born in the US. Scenario knowing the history of my family, exercise for everyone. If my parents took a cruise while my mom was pregnant, and i was born on a ship, would i stop being a African American and become a Ship American? Or better yet, a zoo has a two African lions, those two African lions have off springs, their off springs have off springs, and their off spring have babies, would the last lions born cease to be African lions, because they originators were so far back?" ** Reply 40. Flowers4848 "@mike askme  That's true but Melanesians have been separated from Africa so long,  in the

tens of thousands years … they no longer have genetic relation to Africa." ** Reply 41. Flowers4848 "@mike askme  Because of genetic drift, after fifty

thousands years …  they would  no longer be directly related." ** Reply 42.Flowers4848"@mike askme  At some point everyone is related to Africa

…  Europeans living today, in whatever country, are a varying mix of ancient bloodlines hailing from Africa, the Middle East, and the Russian steppe. The evidence comes from archaeological artifacts, from the analysis of ancient teeth and bones, and from linguistics" ** 43. qolspony "Reading these comments, the white man has done a wonderful job confusing out people. Melanesians were given this name to confuse them and disassociate themselves from their origins, which is Africa. They were the first people to leave Africa some thousand of years ago. How they look so identical to Africans, I don't know, but history does not lie. And thantheir the story that the white man kept telling us that the Black Man only exist in Africa unless he was brought over by the white man. I believe that until a Filipino told me out of his own mouth that people looked like me were in his country. And my brainwashed self told him, the white man must of brought them there. He quickly told me no. They were actually there before Filipinos as we know them. This was all strange for someone who wasn't 20 yet in 1989. Sowhen an actual person from this area tells me he's not connected to me because he comes from a different place. My mind goes back to this story of this Filipino guy telling me that "they are people who look just like me".

By the way I was 6'2 than and still 6'2 now. So obviously my height did not deter him." ** 44. Kai daKemes "The got afros for amen sake ** Reply 45. Mat Whute "And they are still labeled as black"

** 48. Ab Zed "@ Philemon Maiennaka Nangu ; Wake up, and embrace yourself!

Aetas are of African!" ** Reply 49. Flowers4848 "@Ab Zed  LOL … you're looking on the surface … I don't blame you, because on the surface some Melanesians do look African to the average person, but a scientist or geneticist would know better, and would tell you they are the furthest genetically from Africans, and are closely related to Asians ... it's all about demographics and how long ago they have migrated from Africa just like other groups … the first Europeans that migrated from Africa had dark skin, but are not considered African, you can't go by skin color and hair texture."

** 50. Flowers4848 "@Ab Zed  The people of Melanesia have a distinctive ancestry. According to the Southern Dispersal theory, a number of human beings emigrated from Africa between 50,000 and 100,000 years ago and dispersed along the southern edge of Asia … modern day DNA test do not link them to Africa, like it does for Black Americans, and Caribbeans"

** 51. Señor A'Ngon "Useless and dumb controversy. What does that matter?

melanesia means land of the black people. That is all. Black people of the world, unite!" ** Reply 52. Philemon Maiennaka Nangu "Being black does not always mean we are all Africans, thats where you are all wrong."

** 53. Anthoniel JeanCharles"I know some of you racist on here are happy he said not African but melanation but this man clearly has West African features so my question is which West African group migrated to the melanesian islands and then to the Philippines because he's obviously of West African DNA"

** Reply 54. Philemon Maiennaka Nangu "Thats is how shallow minded you are, theres a big difference from African Americans and some of us dark skinned people from around the world, our ancestors were never part of the colonial slave trade but were original immigration. Our DNA has completely changed due to crosses over thousands of years.

Thats the difference, your answer proves how shallow minded yoir thought is Mr Eastcoastbrotha" ** 55. W Musa "@eastcoastbrotha-ONE OF JUDAH  get educated, dark skin and curly hair is just an adaptation to the hot environment and it’s not an African thing. The dark natives of Indonesia, Philippines and the Papuans lived on the islands for more than 30 000 years not from Africa lol. You can literally put a group of whites and leave them in Ghana where they go outside everyday and within 10 000 years they would look like your so called African" **

56. Soufiane סופיאן "@W Musa  This doesn’t make sense at all😂

If the hair and skin color is because of the “hot environment” why do (for example) the Amazigh which are living in North Africa for more than 10.000 years look so different than West Africans? Melanesians aren’t just from Africa, they are literally the same race as Ghanian people as example. I know Melanesians (nowadays) aren’t considered to be Africans because they left Africa about 50.000 years ago BUT you can’t deny your roots brother"

** 57. The Link "We know you are melanesian which means melanin which come from "black" people" 

** Reply 58. Truth Hurts365 "🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣"

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59. Paths2Business "They are Blackity black black black no matter how any of you try to deflect from the truth. The first human originated in Africa period point black! Melanesians are Black!"

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